jgnat,
Sounds like fun. I'll send you an e mail. Kinda funny, two non- JWs having the first Edmonton apostafest.
this topic came up in chat.
as an outsider looking in, i find the whole "throw a napkin on your head, quick" thing ludicrous at best.
it seems a lot of women resent the practice as humiliating and degrading.
jgnat,
Sounds like fun. I'll send you an e mail. Kinda funny, two non- JWs having the first Edmonton apostafest.
this topic came up in chat.
as an outsider looking in, i find the whole "throw a napkin on your head, quick" thing ludicrous at best.
it seems a lot of women resent the practice as humiliating and degrading.
Jgnat, good topic, I have always wondered about this, too?
thanks, americans, that really nice of you.
englishman.. this statement lead me to thinking something.
i am not posting this to argue, cause a flame war, or the like.
Thanks, Simon.
By the way, if anyone has a chance, see a great movie called "Bowling for Columbine", which addresses both this issue and gun control.
I love visiting the US, but am glad to be Canadian.
i am so furious.
the very zealous elderly pioneer sister who lives across the street (alberta) has been canvassing the neighborhood for studies.
i watch her walk up and down the street and being very friendly and helpful with her neighbors (all the while preaching to them i'm sure).
I know that as a non and never JW, C of C didn't make a huge impact on me. A couple of friends and I just read Diane Wilson's book " Awakening of A Jehovah's Witness" . They enjoyed reading it yet were horrified by what they learned about the Watchtower Society. It explains things well for Non jws.
Edited by - concerned mama on 18 November 2002 0:9:37
this is a follow up thread to my previous thread entitled "should the boyfriend sleep over" .
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=35891&site=3.
its been a couple of months since i threw out the question about what you all thought about my 17 year old daughter's boyfriend sleeping over.
Beck,
I have to say I agree with everything Reborn said,
HOWEVER
I know a surprising (surprising to me, anyway) number of couples who are happiliy married to their high school sweethearts for 20 plus years. This includes both of my husbands sisters. As I'm not JW, early marriages were discouraged, and in most of the cases, the parents tried to have the kids wait till they had at least finished their first degree...so about age 22 or so. Some people find the right person early in their life, and grow up, and grow closer together. It wouldn't have been the right thing for me at all, but for these others, it obviously can work.
edited for grammer
Edited by - concerned mama on 13 November 2002 10:19:10
this is a follow up thread to my previous thread entitled "should the boyfriend sleep over" .
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=35891&site=3.
its been a couple of months since i threw out the question about what you all thought about my 17 year old daughter's boyfriend sleeping over.
I have a real fondness for my son's girlfriend and my daughter's ex-boyfriend (gasp...yes, the JW boy). I just like to think my kids have picked great people to share their life, even if only for a while.
Beck, if he is a great kid, and he is good for and to your daughter, how could you not like him? If and when they break up, it will be hard on you, too, as they move on.
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hi,it's been a while since i last wrote on this site.i know quite a lot of you took the time to read my story about when i was 17 (now 18) and i met a jehovah's witness bloke who was 20 at the time (now 21).you can read my story if you want in my ''posts'' under my user name.we had a relationship and he told me a few months later that he is jw.i remember the last time i added to my story we had broken up our relationship and decided not to stay friends.because i stopped writing on my page,after that, i didn't tell you that several days afterwards i felt i couldn't deal with the pain of not talking to each other anymore so we began texting and phoning each other again...and then met up in town.i thought i could move on but i obviously wasn't strong enough to do that.. i wanted us to be together so much and was really keen that we might still be able to work things out even though he chose to stay in his religion,so in the end i asked him if we could get back together and he said yes.we split up a few times though because this whole religion thing really got to me at times.i've been coming back to this website every few evenings to read people's thoughts and experience's...and found it helps to know others have been through similar things too.i know some other people have had more heartbreaking stories to tell on here but i feel my experience hurt me and it might help others that may be going through what i went through.. over the past few weeks i think i realized that if my then-boyfriend and i stayed in our relationship,either way it wasn't going to be easy.i also felt that he had hurt me too many times,emotionaly.i hurt him too,as i was so frustrated,angry and upset at times that i said some things i didn't mean.a few weeks ago i asked him if we could just be good friends...he sounded rather hurt and upset but he said yes.that leads me to where we are now...just good friends.we still see each other,maybe not so often as we did when we were dating but it's nice that we can stay friends i suppose.i feel more happier now that we are just friends,don't get me wrong...i really wish things could have been different (eg if he wasn't a jw) but he is and i suppose that's in a way what makes him him.. i also want to say thank's ''concerned mama'' for the e-mail you sent me.i think i read one of your comments on another topic here the other day and you mentioned that your daughter had broken up with her boyfriend of 2 years or something?,i remember you told me about her and her b/f on the story i wrote.i'm sorry to hear they have split up,if they had.but in a way it might be a good thing don't you think.. thanks everyone for all the advice and support you gave me...it really helped.. funky_diva_53_2000 .
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Hi Funky,
Nice to hear from you. I'm so glad things are going better for you.
Yes, my daughter and her bf broke up about a month ago, but they remain e mail friends. He is still a very confused young man, unhappy in many ways. They still care for each other, but she is moving on perhaps more than he is. She is having a fantastic time at high school, and seems to be growing both personally and in confidence. It finally dawned on her that "it wasn't working, and nothing was going to change". This boy has a very hard line family and is too young to have any say in his own life, and for that matter, he may never have what it takes to examine his own religion, and even if he left it, who is to say that he wouldn't go back.
Both you, Funky, and my daughter, have to be careful not to let the friendship re-develop into romance. If you still have feelings for a guy, it can happen too easily. I'm going to say the same thing to you, as I say to her. Try and put some distance between you. Move on. Too much contact can confuse you, and make you forget it wasn't working. A little more space can be the kindest thing for both of you, in the long term. I am SO relieved that they broke up, and I'm relieved for you, too.
Take care, Funky, and let us know how you are doing. Stay in touch.
i recently purchased "combatting cult mind control" the book by steve hassen and found it very enlightening.
upon the conclusion of that book i did realise once and for all that i was indeed a victim of mind control and that the organisation of jehovahs witnesses certainly qualifies as a "destructive cult" the book was of special interest to me, beacuse it was not written by an ex jw , but by an ex moonie, thus the information is not biased, being particularly written for ex jws.
the similarities of the dubs and the moonies are quite eerie, although there are some differences.
I found that book fascinating as well. I wondered the same thing, whether that could be a book recommended to read, as it isn't "apostate". Has there been any official stance against the book or the author by the WT?
both my husband and i got ours this week.
it seems the supply is limited again this season.
he didn't have any side affects, but my arm has been hurting since yesterday.
I have had a flu shot each year for the last 10 years or so. I am moderately asthmatic, so I get it free thorugh our public health flu clinics. I have had a sore arm some years, and just take some acetaminophen( like Tylenol) for a day or two. Before I started getting the flu shot, because of my asthma, if I got influenza, I got very sick with bronchitis or pneumonia. The flu shot has made a big difference in my health by working preventatively.
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when a witness is leading a double life, are they really leaning toward not believing in the "truth" and just staying in for family and friends sake or do they really believe it is the "truth" but just want to have a little fun?.
i have a friend who says he is "in" just because he goes to meetings of sundays, however during the week you would not believe it if he told you he was a witness.. just curious..
It was this double life that you describe, that caught my attention, and got me started looking Jehovah's Witnesses. The JW family I know would tell me what a great place it was to raise kids and how the kids and their lifestyle were so "clean" and I felt so puzzled, as their son was getting away with partying and drinking, and her step daughter "had" to get married at 17 , because she was pregnant. I still haven't figured out if this Mom truly doesn't see what is going on, or if she just chooses to ignore it. Does she think I don't see it and wonder at the hypocricy?